Comments on: CoH is Fine, Damnit!

By: Prioz

Prioz — Wed, 15 Apr 2009 22:14:40 +0000

but we got the Prayer Of Healing now-heals-other-parties un-nerf back in 3.1.0

together with 2/2 imp Prayers, I see a shift towards even more variation in healing spell usage, making priests yet again the most versatile healers with way too many healing spells

lets see: renew, GH, FH, PoH, PoM, CoH, holy nova… and now shield even allows warrior tanks to continue getting rage when absorbing dmg, the list just becomes longer and longer…

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By: JBP

JBP — Fri, 12 Dec 2008 10:57:09 +0000

We are boned – See PTR notes on MMO-Chamption..
6 sec cooldown on the table..

By: darceljones (stormreaver)

darceljones (stormreaver) — Wed, 12 Nov 2008 17:18:41 +0000

ehhh my enrish not so good when i ramble

By: darceljones (stormreaver)

darceljones (stormreaver) — Wed, 12 Nov 2008 17:17:44 +0000

ok well let me preface by saying I’ve healed with my priest up through Illidan and i have to say, there are very few times where I would cast more than 3 CoH’s in a row, yes surge of light changes that a little, but regardless if you don’t want to spam CoH as much as i do then you can heal without it. Spec to holy/imp spirit. I used to refer to that as gimp spirit spec because i thought CoH had to be our bread and butter, but after raiding with people that use CoH over 90% of their heals. With the mana return from overhealing (serendipity i believe its called) flash and greater heal and glyphs that reduce mana cost, more chance for clearcasting proc and PoM crits its not hard to heal without CoH if you wanted. I might be rambling here but it upsets me too to see the lazy priests spamming CoH to top charts, but to the people that are bored with it…..just don’t use it, i might also be pretentious by saying that but its not as hard as it seems. Final note, a friend of mine stacked crit after the patch (around 35% for a holy priest) and his #1 healing spell in raids in PoM even while spamming CoH a fair amount, with crits on that for over 4k i think we as players just need to rethink how we play our own class, leave us alone blizz!

By: Med

Med — Sat, 08 Nov 2008 19:00:30 +0000

They are going to put the 6 second cooldown. I think we can heal fine without even spending points talenting COH. 6 second cooldown on a 1500 – 2k heal is not much if you cannot cast it twice in a row imo. We shall see, I’m pretty sure it needs some kind of nerf but I would say maybe 4 seconds. But my biggest gripe is not the nerf to coh per se its that priest last 2 holy tiers again are very very sub par and that annoys me with what should really be a 45 and 51 point talents.

By: Hedyd

Hedyd — Sat, 08 Nov 2008 08:00:11 +0000

or, what if Circle of Healing used 5 ranks instead of just the 1?
something like “Heals 1/2/3/4/5 Targets…”

Would you be willing to spend 5 points on it to keep it the way it is now?

By: Hedyd

Hedyd — Sat, 08 Nov 2008 07:54:21 +0000

What about having the 6 second cooldown, but then add a reduction from Divine Providence? Actually I think that all the spells under DP should have some benefit, other than the heal bonus. It could be as simple as ‘reduces cooldown’ or maybe reduce cast time on some of them instead.
That would encourage (or justify) spending more points in the Holy tree, and make it a choice to focus on CoH rather than mixing it up with Discipline talents. Similar to Paladins having to spend extra to make Blessing of Kings full power, it lets us have our Overpowered CoH, but at a cost.
That, or move it to the top tier again, swapping with Guardian Spirit (which might need some tweaks)…

By: Qi

Qi — Sat, 08 Nov 2008 07:33:08 +0000

CoH is overpowered in my opinion in the situation we are in now. I am aware of the fact that raids we do now are not a good example of what we will face at 80. But here is how I heal now in raids: CoH on a tank, renew a tank, CoH a tank, renew a tank, CoH a tank, PoM a tank, rinse, repeat. This heals all tanks and melee in the raid to full, without going OOM. If ranged get dmg, its mostly aoe-based damage so 1 or 2 times casting CoH is usually enough to fix that.

I can do all this without going oom in most bossfights. Like I said above, encounters are not representative of what we will face at 80, but with this method I top the healing charts without breaking a sweat (and much like shamans could before 3.0 by only using chainheal). And I can add 1 thing to this: it’s no fun. I had more fun while I was actually fighting for my 4th or 5th spot on the charts and using a lot more variety of heals and targetting a lot more different people. I’d hate to see CoH getting a 6-sec cooldown, as it is good and it would be totally ruined with a cooldown. But increased mana would be something. Before 3.0 I mainly used CoH as an “OHSHIT”-button.

I just hope Blizzard will come up with something good…

By: Phoebus

Phoebus — Sat, 08 Nov 2008 05:28:53 +0000

I’m now 100% convinced that Blizzard devs never play priests. They seem to have no clue what to do with the class and this is more evidence.